The winchester representative claimed 2300 fps with a 150gr bullet out of a 20 inch barrel. Joseph VonBenedikt is with Joel Hodgdon to talk about the improved accuracy and long-range potential of the already reliable Core-Lokt ammo line. The company would sell you all you wanted for ten bucks apiece, but a gun that tried to cut itself in half was doomed to failure. 38 Special full metal jacket round will hit with the force of 189 pounds of pressure per square foot at a . H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. Model 29 and Marlin stainless 1894 in 44. Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Flintlock Misc, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Matchlock/Wheellock Misc, Century Arms International (CAI) - Rifles, Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Rifles (perc), Winchester Rifles - Modern Bolt/Auto/Single, Winchester Rifles - Pre-1899 Bolt/Single Shot, Century Arms International (CAI) - Pistols, Colt Automatic Pistols (.25, .32, & .380 cal), Colt Single Action Revolvers - Modern (22 Cal. 350 Ledgend vs 357 Rem Max | Bloodydecks Latest posts Offshore They're here!!! The 350 Legend is faster, more powerful, and can be used in more guns than the .357 Magnum. The more the merrier. Sounds like Remington/Marlin customer service and repair has gone straight to hell. Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? Cold hammer-forged barrel results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. . It loads long, with a cartridge overall length (COL) of 2.145 inches, well over the published max COL of 1.990 inches. We used Small Rifle primers for all load data, and they did fine with the propellants we tested. Note the 1/4" groups with .358" bullets in their .358" cylindrical throat and only slightly larger groups with .357" bullets, Copyright 2023 .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA, New Custom Made Barrels by Match Grade Machine. but I can welcome You to the forum. I take the time to dial in bores, do all throating separately forthe best co-axial alignment of the throat with the bore, and cut a few tenths of a thousandth tighter throat. All Types (1000+) The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps. I wish I had bought more..or kept more ..lol. Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 20 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 12 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Benelli-beretta 12 Ga. Uberti 1873 Cattleman NM Steel 7 1/2" .357 Mag with Retractable firing pin (356550), Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16" Lever Action 357 Mag - NIB, 200 Round Case Underwood Ammunition .38 Special 100gr. Great deal on a 357 magnum! Thompson Center manufactures the Contender in .357 Remington Maximum still. soft . almost 1782 psi less than 9mm 4" barrel pressure. Henry offers their stunningly beautiful rifles, all American-made, for substantially less than a Marlin price tag. This gun has a hardwood stock and forend, case colored receiver, and 22" barrel. Thanks to everyone for beginning my education about lever guns! Because many states have recently enacted hunting laws that allow for straight-case centerfire cartridges, in addition to the previous shotgun slugs only. Order your barrel directly from Match Grade Machine, made however you want with their standard chamber or for $125 additional post paid to you, custom chambered by me, Mike Bellm, to my specs for best accuracy with the full range of bullet weights and types. It shouts very well that way. Thats what the saddle ring designs were for. And you get a couple more rounds in the tube. . Yes I had one.. perry42 Nov 23, 2018 #12 The 357 max is all that plus a bit of more power available. twist: 1:18.75"; trim length: 1.285"; primer: Winchester SPM; bullet diam. A lever gun would be a really fun toy for me. If theyll go ahead and put the new loading gate on it (which I expect they will before long) I think Id probably move it straight to the top of the list. If you hand-load long bullets that seat deeply in the case, you may need a longer expander plug to avoid crumpling the case. They only made these two years. Also, the Contender comes in longer barrel lengths than the 7.5 and 10.5 inch barrels that Ruger made the Blackhawk with for the .357 Rem. The .357 Magnum is considerably more powerful than its parent round the .38 Special. by groschen1936 Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:29 pm, Post Made in 1988, nickel, no drag marks on cylinder, factory original box and paperwork, like new! It was too intense and very finicky. GunBroker.com Forums. Due to the additional costs of internet sales, shipping, etc., our internet pricing may vary from our In-Store price. I chose not to raid the checking account for a c-note more and have been kicking myself since. Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. Since its a range toy for me, its never been a big enough issue for me to bump it to the top of the to-do list. [6] The "Magnum era" began with the .375 H&H rifle cartridge, spreading to handguns with the .357 Magnum. someguy2800, Jul 12, 2019 #7 Eagle 17 and Bfh_auto like this. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. I much prefer .30 caliber bullets in any of those platforms. Max. new No sales CA - NY - know your state laws! The object was to knock down all five targets in two minutes. I always attempt to stay in the mid range of the reload manual. The 357 Max is generally considered to be less powerful that 35 Rem, but I don't know if you would see a difference in a 14" barrel. The evidently know a 22 rifle or shotgun by sight. Rifle Brass; Rifles; Specialty Long Range; Sub-Caliber Products (.17, .14, .12, & .10 caliber) Cartridge Board Displays; Shotgun ; Firearms; Featured Item.14 Ackley . And dont let anyone tell you that lever actions are slow. Jim Rhodes Greenville, Al. As they are harder to find, I switched to PPU 158 JHP with little change for sighting in. Pun intended. Unfortunately it caught the Remlin disease and had to be sent to the ship for some warranty work. .38 Spl is an absolute dream to shoot in a .357 lever gun. He cleaned that up. The 1892 is a top-ejecting model so scopes or rails are out, but the point of this gun is to be a fast-handling, medium-range rifle. Try it you won't regret it. While initially offered in .44-40, .32-20 and .38-40 (and discontinued for some time) a new version emerged in 2013 chambered for .357 Magnum/.38 Spl and a hammer block safety for safe carry. Frankly the quality was sinking fast before Remington bought them out, but they went straight off the cliff when they fired all the Marlin workers and took their worn out tooling and put their own Remington workers (with no experience building lever guns) on them. Just, reading the article reminded me about it. Its not as slick as the old 19, but it will do the job. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary. Not a bad option if you are living in a slave state. This was a blue-collar sport that could be pursued at relatively modest cost, using handloads in a rock-bottom minimum battery of one powerful revolver. The 357 Maximum was invented to compete in that contest (most likely?). Later, Dan Wesson Firearms made double-action revolvers, and Thompson/Center offered single-shot Contender pistol barrels. The finish is stainless steel with a black/gray laminate stock with checkered pistol grip and a rubber recoil pad. It was almost daylight and I kept hearing something move around. In the early 1980s, the hottest thing going for competitive handgunners was IHMSA. My lever is a Winchester in .45 Colt, for which you can not only reload, but you can reload pretty close to double the pressure of a handgun round, as long as you are using a modern rifle, and depending on the weight of the round. In the case of multiple buyers for one item, customers will be given 24 hours to complete a transaction, after which firearms will be made available to the next buyer. by stretch Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:47 pm, Post Also have a Winchester 1886 in 45-90, I shoot 45-70 loads in it and had no issues. So without further adiou "Welcome". 11 February 2004, 13:28 dgr416 First, I was a guy who dropped the idea, except for a special-purpose handload. JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. . AS ALWAYS, START ABOUT 10% LOW AND WORK UP! Savage made a small number of their model 24 Over/Under combination rifles with a .357 Rem. (Ret.) Cloudbuster Finding ammo can be tough for any caliber these days, but if youve already got a stash of .38 and .357 for your handguns, youve already got that covered. No box or papers. But those new X models are very hard to get now. Its pleasant to shoot even with .357 mag. Long throated .357 MAGnum barrels let you create space in the MAGnum case for the same powder charge rates used in factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! Todays edition also features a falling block safety, so it can be carried loaded. In short order, there was a Ruger Blackhawk Maximum and ammo to go with it.Ruger was not the only party on the Maximum bandwagon. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Thompson center contender barrel, 357 max, 21" blued at the best online prices at eBay! This is the same bullet we've used with great sucess in the .35 Rem loads. The werent lever actions. The .357 Maximum is a "stretched" .357 Magnum case; it's about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. It's another special purpose cartridge that has an eerie resemblance to the Max. Rimmed cases don't play well with stacked magazines like in the 700 Remington. Too bad Winchester lever guns arent still made in the USA. im looking to trade for a 357 lever action.. Good luck.hope you brought your best marbles.. At pressures in the 40,000-psi range, they helped avoid primer flowback that can tie up a break-action firearm. There is a fine line between hobby & obsession! Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. Two million signatures needed by Nov 17 to qualify for a 2021 Special Election. The late Bill Ruger got interested and set his people to work. Item Number: 534196137. rifle velocities, rifle bullets for the .35 Rem. As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. . What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? The 30A is a Marlin 336 for 70% off.). When the gun fired, it behaved like all revolvers in that the powder charge in those long chambers burned at a very high temperature. 1. to 200 gr. This rifle has a ton of modern flair that you may be used to seeing on semi-automatic sporting rifles. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. Post Brand: Winchester Firearms. Im not particularly recoil sensitive (though getting old does suck) but from a power-to-controllability ratio standpoint, Ive always found the .357 to be the sweet spot. Save your brass and reload. While many manufacturers produce copper jacketed or semi-jacketed bullets, as well as spire point for better accuracy at longer ranges, you can cast your own bullets to load this caliber. A . Upon opening the box the gun was dirty and needed to be cleaned/oiled, not sure if the dust was from the shipping cardboard or lack of care in the shop before packing. MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating. The Winchester Model 1873 is an iconic rifle commonly referred to as "The Gun That Won the West.". 38 special. Discussion forums for GunBroker.com users. What would be the right bullet? The advantage I see to 357 max is you use 357 mag carbide reloading dies so it is easier to reload and no trimming. Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. Khalil, Ive got one in .327 Fed Mag and Im here to tell you IT IS SWEET!! The fact that they are very difficult to find, new or used, is a testament of that they are still relative and in high demand. Although some may not find this particular gun relevant, I think there are lots of pluses. Threaded barrel. The little bastards will come and cuss you and drop nuts on you. Lite recoil and is deadly. Manufacturer Cimarron Firearms br brModel 1892 Lever Action Riflebr brSKU AS621br brCaliber .357 Magnumbr brCapacity 10 Roundsbr brBarrel Length  20 Oct CIM CA2903 CIM UBERTI 1894 RIFLE 38-55 26" Brand: CIMARRON FIREARMS CO Item Number: CIM CA2903 UPC: 814230101112 Cimarron Firearms, the leader in authentic replicas from America Glock #32 (357 Sig) -- #13 rounds magazine -- #3 Magazines and loader only! The New Henry Big Boy X models are looking like may be the best value in a New Lever action rifle. Thus sighted, 125 grain +p 38 special is spot on out to about 50 yards, maybe furtherbut havent tried it. NEF 357 Mag camo syn stocks with camo Nikon . . They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. It can be used against medium to large game, with hunters disagreeing over its efficacy for dangerous game such as bear. I think it helps ballistic uniformity in this long, skinny case and slow propellants. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:56 pm, Post Based on the Encore being ok for the 270, up to 65,000 psi is Ok. plus i have very bad eyes, and kinda need a scope or a red dot to shoot in a relaxed fashion. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?309518-Saddle-ring-carbines-How-do-you-use-the-ring. .357 Remington Maximum beats many of the traditional factory loaded "deer cartridges" such as .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington. Model 1873 and cowboyskinda synonymous. Show Only with Pictures by Rusty Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:22 pm, Post I do like the other pistols but somehow I always end up back at one of those two. They should come from the factory that way. Can we get some more ideas? Within a few weeks, the company got so many complaints, they halted production and never resumed. Expect this one to make a comeback, like the 10mm. With todays rail-mounted optics, that makes the 1894 CSBL tactical and practical, with the addition of an XS Sights Lever Rail and sight set. I am going to start reloading though as JHP rounds for these calibers are expensive and I am apprehensive about using the easily found round nose bullets on a tube magazine gun. Getting old aint easy. Through my industry connections, I heard plenty of finger-pointing about metallurgy and propellant choices, but the ultimate outcome was that the revolver market for this cartridge simply dried up. Above: Image courtesy of Steinel Ammunition. In 357 max 24" Douglas premium barrel 1in16 twist shoots 180 pointed flat point over 4227 with CCI 450 primer .7 inches at 100 don't have to worry about resale I'll keep this one. Great rifle and never have had an issue, shooting with 8 grains of unique with 225 grn semi wadcutters. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-rossi-model-92-lever-action-45-colt/, Also not a .357, but a stunning Henry: Despite the fact there is little commercial production for the .357 Remington maximum, the cartridge is well liked by hunters who understand the velocities, energy, and recoil it produces makes for a very efficient and manageable cartridge. We show you how. While Ive never loaded brass I have loaded shotshells on a card table in the living room with a mec 650. 40-50 Sharps 1 7/8" and the 40-60 Maynard 2.20" can be made by blowing out 303 British or 30-40 Krag cases and cutting to length. Fully agree with this. Most of the famous Hatfield-McCoy feud was fought with lever guns. Ive chosen to go with a strategy that includes both firearms that the SASS folks find fascinating and others that cause the antis to have bowel control problems you can cover a lot of bases for just a couple thousand dollars. Smooth as butter. That 2000 fps 357 mag load is 1100 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. Designed to use popular handgun calibers, it allowed shooters to carry a single caliber of ammo. Yes, they can, of course, be fired farther, but the design, mass and speed of the bullets are what really determine effective range. No Tags. Guns Rifles Harrington Richardson Rifles HARRINGTON RICHARDSON . Then ordered a new 1894 with Ballard rifling, checkering, and sling studs for 350. Do you have a case length limitation in your state for a straight wall case? by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:33 pm, Post Good item. So there are several options available that are much less expensive than the fine examples listed in the article. If you use 158-grain bullets on game, I highly recommend softpoints over hollowpoints. The big problem for me was the shape of the Contender grip which caused my hand to shake after just a few shots. Lil Gun starting at 26 grains and worked up to as much as 30 grains gives top velocities in 24 barrels and good velocities in shorter barrels. Used Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA 2-3/4 or 3" shell,Top break action, Reciever is a case hardened finish. I think its partly because leverguns are unusual in a sea of sameness, and also because theyve still got a bit of that badass Old West cachet. and i personally think the word tactical and the word options are interchangeable. The .357 Maximum is a stretched .357 Magnum case; its about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. Why does a levergun in .357 Magnum make more sense than one in .30-30 in those states? Also, the flame proved to be hard on the rear end of the barrel, rapidly destroying the smooth taper of the forcing cone.The makers involved cleared their drawing boards and mandated corrections. I have not seen a 357 max levergun but, I have a Marlin 336 that is chambered in 375 Supermag. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:35 pm, Post No such thing as a perfect caliber, but .357 magnum and its sister the .357sig is about as close as one can get. Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. After the hunts are over is the best time to send barrels in for customizing! One example would be the Savage Model 24 combination rifle/shotgun. Emailed them and apparently they dont have wood parts that would fit. My M19 was made in 1976. Going price was 399.they didnt have any..but said they had a 45 Long Colt at a discount 299easy decision. Back in 05, I bought an Interarms marked Rossi model 92SR off of the used rack at a LGS for $200. My main load was Winchester 357 Silvertips. Some additional info on Fury Bullets, Detroit, MI. The furniture is high grade walnut, and the Deluxe Sporting model also features a 24-inch half octagon barrel and half rounded. This fire also flowed upwards in such a way that it encountered the inside edge of the revolver topstrap. Nice single shot rifle. The 125-grain loads have not quite as much muzzle energy as NATO's standard infantry rifle round, the 5.56x45mm. Make sure to watch till the end. With nice wood This caliber in both the bottle neck and straight wall was a popular "high velocity" for it's day buffalo caliber. One say I will probably add a .357 in a carbine for all around utility in the 100 yards or less range. We will take a look back at a stock revolver and its misunderstood cartridge called the .357 Maximum.Originally conceived by the late Elgin Gates and called the .357 SuperMag, the new round was very straightforward. If the .35 Rem is legal where you're at, and you're wanting to build a bolt-action, I would probably go that route, as brass and ammo is much easier found than .357 Maximum brass and load data. For the more meticulous shooters and those who like to experiment with the widest variety of bullet types. .358" jacketed, .357" jacketed, and cast lead bullets, just ask them to send the barrel to me to chamber for $105 post paid to you, billed separately by me. Get your barrels customized early for next season! Geoff: Nope, not yet. I make do with a 336 Marlin in .35 Rem. I admit that these articles about .357s have me thinking What the hell? Nobody shoots the .357 Max because no manufacturer chambers their firearms for it these days!" Thompson Center Contender Stainless Steel MGM 357 Maximum 12 Barrel (1:14). Even swap. The amount of money, time and effort and the increased lever throw places a 357 Maximum lever gun so far down my list that it will never happen for me. Many people download it and get unburnt . Actually prefer 30-30 to any handgun round. Found a gunsmith who examined it, he got it working again. And some states (North Carolina) consider that a concealed weapon. Loads published in the major reloading manuals are pitifully understated, going to only go to about 40,000 psi. But alas. The cartridge made its debut in 1983 in the Ruger New Model Blackhawk single-action revolver. All your beautiful $2,000 semi-auto rifles will be illegal, while excellent, used $500 Marlins will disappear from the market. Here are links for the articles Ive posted over the years; enjoy! The chrony doesnt lie: .357 levers punch well above their weight: The tactikewl timmys that see all rifles as ARs are missing the point. And a fun one! .44 Henry rimfire. Buy Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA: GunBroker is the largest seller of Other Rifles Rifles Guns & Firearms All: 973628258. . The MAGnum case with the bullet seated out holds exactly the same charge weights as factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! Reloading is a good alternative if you can get the supplies, but from what I read things like primers are becoming harder to find as well. Ha! Winchester just introduced the 350 Legend for all the people who are stuck using straight walled cartridges. $2.92. and especially their 180 gr. Load data for 9 loads in caliber .357 Maximum with .355 . .44-40. . When I lived in the mountains caretaking a state property, soon learned the first day of hunting season would see the deer herd moving onto the property, bedding down behind the residence and the snow plow shed.

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